I’d say concede the problems and keep the issues. What use is a philosophy while the world keeps dying? Is it really so important to you that everyone else thinks the same way as you do that you’d sacrifice the planet for it?

I used to be in the deep ecologist camp, but I’m slowing moving out of it because I wanted to bring people into the movement instead of speaking only among current members of the group.

This is the piece that got me started on this path and in this conversation. It’s lengthy, but I’d love to hear what you have to say about it.

http://www.thebreakthrough.org/images/Death_of_Environmentalism.pdf

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Thanks for the post; I understand what you mean when you say that civilization may never doing anything right on its own. I am, believe it or not, fairly optimistic about the future; then again, I’m in college, surrounded by people who care about the world and the planet, so maybe once I get out of my cocoon that’ll all change.

In any case, hope to hear more from you!

Enjoyed skimming through your past posts and hope you’ll be continuing to write on these subjects. Don’t agree with you on everything (I’m much older, wearier, and have no hope of our civilization ever voluntarily doing the right thing) but it’s always nice to find someone who cares.